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Oct 2, 2017

We're joined this week by multi-hyphen extraordinaire Brock Wilbur, the only person on the planet to understand every single crazy deep cut reference Zach makes in what can only be described as an endurance test for only the most dedicated listener of this podcast. At some points, we vaguely discuss Wizards of Waverly Place. Vaguely.

Pre-order Brock's book here: It's very good.